In a geopolitical context, despite its size, China has never played much more than a regional role. Still, as China has become the second-largest economy in the world, it has a solid military position and an almost ongoing trade war with the US, so the role of China is changing. In the West, we can argue against trade with a country with limited human rights, freedom of speech, and many things we don’t understand or want to accept. China has been able to create an economic miracle, take millions out of poverty, and become one of the leading suppliers of goods of all kinds to the rest of the world. In this 45-minute interview, Editor Morten B. Reitoft talks with David Gibbons, who, for more than 12 years, has learned about China, the country, and its population thinking; married Chinese living partly in China gives us an insight. You can agree or disagree with his viewpoints, and I do ask him if the Chinese way and the advantages he sees are worth considering trade-off – and, well, I think you might be surprised about his views of how China works. I am pleased with this interview, so I hope you will listen with an open mind, as that is what freedom of speech and democracy are all about – and the ‘strange’ thing is, of course, that I had to ask David Gibbons whether he is in Australia or China before sending a YouTube link – as YouTube isn’t allowed in China – strange world – but the normal is maybe ALWAYS based on your view angle!